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Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:02:57 -
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Nevil Kincade wrote:Allawa Phantom wrote:I Smell MOA Tears
Its really ironic how the entities who say this system is brilliant is the trolls who run around and entosis stuff then run at the first sight of danger We are not trolls, we fight CFC every day with great success and you know it. It's bad enough that the blob of garbage forces it's pvp style on so many players but the political bullshit going even into game design is a danger to Eve as a product.
You what mate?
We all have read Gen Eve's and MASSADEATH's alliance wide evemails, advising line members to avoid fighting while trolling with Entosis links. And we have not termed this trolling, it is your FCs that named it so and ordered you to avoid fights at all costs.
You are just embarrassing yourself with the fairy tale that is your forum post.
Now, no PvP in their right mind believes your inner propaganda about how MoA is proficient at PvP. If you notice, the reaction such claims have been getting in every community medium is mockery of MoA.
So, it is in your best interests to save yourself further embarrassment under this thread. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:12:38 -
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Baku Saissore wrote:i cant believe the whining is still continuing!! You got what you wanted - f1 blobs are back!! with defense multipliers down to 24 minutes max , an attacking fleet doesn't have to worry too much about defenders - just bring a blob.
in particularly whats annoying is the whining re 4k speed limit. Have you never heard of a ceptor? .... you lazy F1 monkeys...
Well, maybe if you actually played this game under sov scenario related PvP fights instead of struggling with your keyboard to spell English words out correctly here, you would have already known that the 4000 m/s is more than enough in any ship equipped with an Entosis link to simply align away from the sov module the moment a hostile pops up in local to break grid (or burn such an amount of distance from the sov structure that any attempt to catch will be futile) and reach complete safety.
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Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:28:18 -
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Here are my thoughts about the set of 'tweaks' that Fozzie announced:
They are simply amazing. They absolutely manage to touch and correct almost none of the issues that the majority of null players were pointing out very vocally.
Node reductions might be pointed out as a positive change, but the tweak on them is so light that is suspiciously looks like to me an attempt to damage control after the overwhelmingly negative feedback that has been addressed to Fozzie & the team.
With these levels of excellence at the inability to comprehend the basic demands of the null sov players, I can easily foresee EVE Online going F2P in short to medium term with the current trends of concurrent logins and subscription numbers rapidly bleeding out.
Well done Fozzie, now please do pen a dev blog about how you succeeded on placing the game on life support and prevented the death. Meanwhile, we'll be throwing soil on EVE's casket and saying our prayers in the grim cemetery of reality.
Reagalan made an excellent post about why your ideas and insistence on shoving a certain playstyle down the nullseccers collective throats is a bad idea. You might want to read that several times. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:35:50 -
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Baku Saissore wrote:Alp Khan wrote: Well, maybe if you actually played this game under sov scenario related PvP fights instead of struggling with your keyboard to spell English words out correctly here, you would have already known that the 4000 m/s is more than enough in any ship equipped with an Entosis link to simply align away from the sov module the moment a hostile pops up in local to break grid (or burn such an amount of distance from the sov structure that any attempt to catch will be futile) and reach complete safety.
Lol you havent undocked since May and think you know something about Fozzie? yeah...
Haven't, not havent.
I do own and keep subscribed more accounts than the min. number of minutes you need to spell a simple English word out correctly, so you will have to excuse me while I laugh at your reply. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:42:41 -
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Wilhelm Knicklicht wrote:Reagalan wrote:Fozziesov is not engaging for the average fleet member, who has to wait around while the magical sov hackers do all the work. Under Dominion sov, your average fleet member got to contribute via DPS, and at least got killmails at the end. TL;DR: fozziesov not attractive for the average goon member who just wants to get fleetwarped and press F1. system working as intended.
I suppose you will edit your post out when a bright crayon in your box points it out to you that Reagalan is not some "average goon member who just wants to get fleetwarped and press F1" which, quite literally only exists in the collective imagination of the GRR GON crowd and instead is a bloc level FC that often deals with strategic fleets.
I will give you bonus points if you turn out to be some backwater wormholer or a high-sec salvager, because you do certainly demonstrate the prerequisite mental faculties for being either of the two. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:47:50 -
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Baku Saissore wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Baku Saissore wrote:i cant believe the whining is still continuing!! You got what you wanted - f1 blobs are back!! with defense multipliers down to 24 minutes max , an attacking fleet doesn't have to worry too much about defenders - just bring a blob.
in particularly whats annoying is the whining re 4k speed limit. Have you never heard of a ceptor? .... you lazy F1 monkeys... Well, maybe if you actually played this game under sov scenario related PvP fights instead of struggling with your keyboard to spell English words out correctly here, you would have already known that the 4000 m/s is more than enough in any ship equipped with an Entosis link to simply align away from the sov module the moment a hostile pops up in local to break grid (or burn such an amount of distance from the sov structure that any attempt to catch will be futile) and reach complete safety. Instead of concentrating on my grammar learn how to play this game!!! Get a ceptor and undock instead of hiding behind an FC and press F1 and do check killboards before commenting nonsense. Even a basic ceptor can do over 4 k and even under current rules i caught over 20 entosis ceptors in the last month. Seriously grow a pair or just quietly press F1 and leave the ones who actually like pvp to get on with it.
And where are those mythical entosis trollceptors that were all successfully caught by the PvP rockstar and god Baku Saissore instead of blasting away to ultimate safety by aligning out the second they saw a hostile pop up in local?
If you are going to lie, at least spend some effort to do so and put some thought in it. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 01:56:53 -
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Baku Saissore wrote:It seems your typing skills extend only as far as pressing F1 goes, so let me give you a helping hand.
Forgive me because it seems I made a grave mistake by assuming you could count properly. It is all very clear to me that you can't do that either, because there aren't "more than 20 entosis trollceptor killmails" on your KB as you have previously claimed. Please enlighten us on what other basic tasks you aren't able to conduct successfully.
Now that we have established without a doubt that you can't effectively count as well as being unable to spell out English words correctly, I would like you to take the helping hand you've kindly offered before and put it to certain other uses.
The best one would be using your fingers to help you count. If you use all your fingers on your hands in two sets, you'll be able to count up to a staggering high of 20.
You're welcome. |

Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.19 02:09:56 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Entosis active should reduce speed to ZERO. DOUBLE the mass. Reduce number of control nodes further, they are still AIDS. Also, this. With the new 'local' model in null and requisite defensive posture of entities to hold what they take, a much needed content-generating land-rush of new entrants won't happen until the elephant in the room of 72% calling hisec home is addressed substantively It's time. F
Good suggestions overall. Would stop trolling and ensure some amount of actual commitment to the sov events. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 02:15:53 -
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MASSADEATH wrote:Reagalan wrote:Won't do jack **** to a system that is fundamentally and critically flawed and unsalvageable.
Until you get off of this "small gang" and "local conflict" soapbox the decline of Eve will continue. We didn't sign up for small gang impermanent bullshit and we detest your attempts to force this playstyle upon us. More goon BLOB ... just as we start actually taking CFC systems... we have 3 under control now Y-C3EQ 7RM-N0 GA-P6C the biggest advantage we have SPEED is taken away.... so they can just roll BLOBS onto the grid. BLOB BLOB BLOB.... back to n+1 fighting Instead of MOA whining ...we are going to ADAPT (like the big blocs should do) and try our best. IMO however this is a mistake , only a few weeks of this system has been in place and its already being changed to suit the power bloc whiners.
You mean you will send out in game evemails to your pilots, instructing them to just sov troll and avoid fights while doing entosis runs? I'm looking forward to read your posts when the ability to avoid fights on sov offensives is curbstomped.
Not to mention your own forum posts advising to avoid entosis fights at all in MoA forums, but hey, please do continue to act and pretend as if MoA is able to do actual PvP here, it's our pride and joy and we actually do enjoy good comedy.
(We also don't use ratting ships and industrials as our strategic PvP doctrines, so you will find that you are unable to function just as you weren't able to before and get wiped out of the grid -that is if you aren't able to run away the moment your scout tells you about an incoming Goon fleet several jumps away -) |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 12:40:14 -
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Eli Apol wrote:Alphaomega21 wrote:If you want to truly fix the sovereignty system once and for all remove it completely and base who's name is on the map by the alliance who has the greatest number of pilots out in space. Then you can start working on the problem of making 0.0 worth fighting over. Maybe by buffing moons so alliances can have an income source that is worth taking. Managed to be funnier than all the CFC salt. Post of the day.
Ah, welcome! We were looking for the clueless highsec salvager to comment on the null sov changes, and you did not disappoint to deliver. Now all we need is a low class wormhole PvE farmer to comment on them as well, because why the hell not?
(For other readers, this person has been talking without a clue re: fozzie sov since it's very early announcement, and if you take a look at his corp history, you'll find out that he is a high-sec salvager) |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 12:43:53 -
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Aldjor Dayman wrote:Nevil Kincade wrote:NO FOZZY !
NO ! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
You are being told a fairy tale! We have taken a couple of systems (and lost them again) but never due to a single 'trolling' ship. This stuff just doesnt happen in reality against an organized alliance/coalition. It always involved fending of ewar and controlling access to the system. Perhaps stalling for time to get the entosis done but ultimately because the defenders CAME IN TOO LATE. And whos fault is that ?
I cant believe you are giving into this whining of people who just DONT WANT TO PVP. You should see the reality of 'Entosis Trolling' with your own eyes before you make such decisions. The defender comes in, jams the Entosis ship and your warm-up cylce goes to **** wasting you 20 minutes. And if you fit a ship to counter that kitsune or falcon by outrunning it they scream "Unfair! Unfair! Fozzy nerf it pleeeease !!!"
What is this bullshit ? Sov defence by crying for nerfs ? And you play along ???
Entosis links seriously need e-war immunity or be able to keep running without a lock-on !
What do you think how many successfull jams a falcon can get off during the warm-up cycle, 20, 200 ? Because thats the amount of Entosis ships you will need in the future to capture a TCU against a defender who is actually on the ball. And what if you field 20 ECM ships or 100 ? That gets us to a number the server cant even handle.
And how dare those that own sov to define that kiting is not a proper strategy to fight over a system ? They could easily have put on their OWN ENTOSIS onto the TCU and stopped the attackers progress. If they were TRULY holding the field that shouldnt be a problem right ? Our 9k m/s Entosis ships never could stay on grid with an actual force arriving by the way. Again: Fozzy bro is believing a fairytale.
What was happening the last few weeks was EXACTLY what Aegis Sov was meant to do: Make power blocs realize they cant occupy all the space themselves. They were supposed to feel the pain of an empire overstretch and make a tough call about what space is worth the effort.
THEY WERE MEANT TO LOOSE SPACE ! And not only the part they choose to. Now they are starting to loose their face in being outplayed and loosing Sov so they throw all their political power at CCP. Of course on the cost of the entire player base.
Please grow a spine you lush sack of potatoe meal ... im so ******* disappointed, you were the last hope for content and conflict in Eve.
P.S. Aegis Sov has made Pure Blind a content garden of even. Sure the Sov holders don't like to get slaughtered in skirmishes now that they are forced upon them but the content generation part of the new system is absolutely working.
Congratz on that part CCP! Please don't give up. All the criticism is purely political and certainly not about fun and explosion. Unfortunately this post has no credibility because you come from the bottom of the dumpster.
You realize now in MoA internal forums, you will now be referenced as a Goon alt? :P |

Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.19 12:46:29 -
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yogizh wrote:Will you also create a ship that can track a ceptor moving at 4000 m/s ? Cause that was your policy right ? Having a counter to everything ?
This change solves nothing.
Yes, a ship that can also move between grids at will to be able to catch the entosis trollceptor who is already out of the sov structure grid by the time you land on it from the gate.
Because he'll have seen you drop in local long before you land on grid and he'll have aligned away.
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Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 12:50:05 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Here are my thoughts about the set of 'tweaks' that Fozzie announced:
They are simply amazing. They absolutely manage to touch and correct almost none of the issues that the majority of null players were pointing out very vocally.
Node reductions might be pointed out as a positive change, but the tweak on them is so light that is suspiciously looks like to me an attempt to damage control after the overwhelmingly negative feedback that has been addressed to Fozzie & the team.
With these levels of excellence at the inability to comprehend the basic demands of the null sov players, I can easily foresee EVE Online going F2P in short to medium term with the current trends of concurrent logins and subscription numbers rapidly bleeding out.
Well done Fozzie, now please do pen a dev blog about how you succeeded on placing the game on life support and prevented the death. Meanwhile, we'll be throwing soil on EVE's casket and saying our prayers in the grim cemetery of reality.
Reagalan made an excellent post about why your ideas and insistence on shoving a certain playstyle down the nullseccers collective throats is a bad idea. You might want to read that several times. The majority of nullsec hasn't pointed to anything. A loud minority, consisting mostly of your alliance is crying and pointing at all the wrong things, rest of the playerbase and devs laugh at your futile mongering. You're wrong, suck it up or just gtfo- there''s literally nobody that cares whether you unsub or not, but at least have the decency to shut up.
Taking a look at Deklein and taking a look at your post shows me that in the end, you will be the one who'll take up your well documented tradition of a) shutting up b) giving up c) quitting
Besides, this thread is a very good demonstrator just like all the sov threads and roundtables before that majority of sov null is against being forced to play this game in just a certain type of way and spend hours of grinding while doing so. Basically, your kind is a very small minority.
However, I do appreciate your candor for trying. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 12:58:05 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:OldWolf69 wrote:Fozzie. What if ppl STILL won't come to TAKE the Sov effectively? Because they won't. WHY in the blue hell would you expose yourself to trolling, and spend a LOT of isk too, if you can be the troll, and this for peanuts? http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
This speaks for itself. You still think your game is kept alive by 2 trolling small gang runners? Or 2-3 forum yellers? or they are just a convenable way to justify bad decisions/total lack of imagination? ....saw a lot of imbecility in corporate ranks. A great lot. But this batch beats them all. I suppose this is because they had ENOUGH things to destroy. And the corporation owners do not give a **** about it. Once again: there is absolutely no real reasons to fight except the economical ones. Or trolling ones. EVERYBODY knows Sov is work, and will be actually worser after all this ****. THIS is a GAME, not a JOB. WE all know you CCP boyz are out of ideeas. Presuming you had some back in time. Ok, HIRE someone able to fix the sandbox. It does cost? Stupidity does cost a lot. CCP lost already more than a good team of Devs does cost. It's already REALLY close to a point of no return, for this game. Every change is fun for exactly 3 days here, like the orthodox wonders. Hallelujah!    This is really bad posting, but I have to say it: Delicious subgewn tears. Less bot/multicast accs being bad? No, except if you're gewn, then yes. If holding sov makes you cry, you should not hold sov. Fairly obvious, unless your density is in "gewn or worse" range. If you think the troll has it so nice, why aren't you trolling yet? If a gewn/subgewn quits, good riddance. Can I have your stuff?
Obvious MoA shill forum alt detected, terrible spelling and lack of knowledge in English grammar made it obvious. 1/10 |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:01:44 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Reagalan wrote:The only solution to the problems of Fozziesov is to scrap the whole thing, return to Dominion sov, and iterate upon a proven system. Ah yes. Where goons reigned supreme with the Blob or GTFO tactics on, well on everything. How about no.
It is actually Brave that tried to, but failed most of the time, to reign supreme through blobbing everything. But since that irony did not strike you at all before posting, what are the chances of your character being an alt of some other player that is unrelated to null sov? |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:04:33 -
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Wilhelm Knicklicht wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Wilhelm Knicklicht wrote:Reagalan wrote:Fozziesov is not engaging for the average fleet member, who has to wait around while the magical sov hackers do all the work. TL;DR: fozziesov not attractive for the average goon member who just wants to get fleetwarped and press F1. system working as intended. I suppose you will edit your post out when a brighter crayon in the box you are in points it out to you that Reagalan is not some "average goon member who just wants to get fleetwarped and press F1" I will give you bonus points if you turn out to be some backwater PvE wormholer or a high-sec Noctis salvager, because you do certainly demonstrate the prerequisite mental faculties for being either of the two. as to my mental faculties, thanks for the vote of confidence regarding wormhole pve. not a bad playstyle
Yeah, as I pointed out, I knew you were writing cheques (arguments about null sov) that your body cannot cash (and being someone who exclusively does wh PvE at the same time). Well, I trust you will be able to find a wormhole PvE thread by yourself then? |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:09:38 -
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Captain StringfellowHawk wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Reagalan wrote:The only solution to the problems of Fozziesov is to scrap the whole thing, return to Dominion sov, and iterate upon a proven system. Ah yes. Where goons reigned supreme with the Blob or GTFO tactics on, well on everything. How about no. I'm sorry as an EX HERO member myself.. an EX fighter Against your Group when I lived in Providence.. You people Blob as much as goons back when you didn't murder your membership numbers with bad ideas. Back when Brave Newbies was a classy and respectable group with great ideologies. Back when every MAJOR power bloc started rolling out their own versions of Brave Dojo because they RESPECT how BNI was handling things. When Powerblocs started changing how they handled things internally into the ways BNI handled them. Lets not Forget the Brave we all knew, Loved, respected, mocked, faught, and cheered forward to great heights. Brave was becoming Goonswarm 2.0 until you failscaded due to EGO. Hubris led to the downfall of your great alliance, it's many coupes, its abandonment of great corporations, lets not forget about the Internal Destruction of the Hopefully Effective Rookie Organization (H.E.R.O). But let us make no Mistake.. BNI was BLOB or GTFO when it's members Enjoyed logging in.
Well since he does not realize what you pointed out, I'd say he is spy alt of someone else that mainly dabbles in unrelated playstyle to sov null who just came to this thread to post with a GRR GON bias.
He probably wanted to post with a plausible alt that looked like he is vested in sov null, but he did not realize making such a contradictory claim would break the illusion he wanted to create initially. And therefore, hilarity ensued.
And the funniest part is, our official stance has never been against an occupancy sov system as an idea, and we did not lash out against this certain sov system. Yet, people of questionable mental faculties continue to associate the clear and present major community backlash as 'Goon objections'.
TL;DR is, he is not Brave. He is either a NPC null player who has absolutely no interest in maintaining and developing space assets (as he doesn't want to fight for them) or he plays in either wormholes, lowsec or highsec exclusively and ironically pitches himself as an expert on sov null. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:12:56 -
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Tallardar wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Obvious MoA shill forum alt detected, terrible spelling and lack of knowledge in English grammar made it obvious. 1/10 Have you looked at the Legion of xXDeathXx posts? They're just as bad.
Hendrick, actually I did. But they have a valid excuse since most, if not virtually all of them, are ESL speakers by the virtue of being Russian native speakers. One wonders what MoA's excuse could be? :) |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:18:03 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:yogizh wrote:Emmy Mnemonic wrote:yogizh wrote:Will you also create a ship that can track a ceptor moving at 4000 m/s ? Cause that was your policy right ? Having a counter to everything ?
This change solves nothing. Ever heard of precision missiles and nano-ships....? A nano-fitted Scythe Fleet Issue with Rapid Lights will easily kill a 4000 m/s trollceptor, better with speed-booster on grid, but also without it. There are more examples. Yes, in case you can make it to the attacker alive thru places like X-7O in a ship with 0 tank. Because when you gewn, you gewn hard - I mean, jump bridges ceased to exist... when again? Really, trust it to gewns to be afraid of rolling in their own region... Speedkermit Damo wrote:Surely the real problem is that Interceptors should never have been given interdiction nullification in the first place. This was a huge mistake and should be rolled back yesterday.
Interceptors online needs to go away. Delicious gewn tears. Keep it coming! ED: In case someone misunderstands, the post above states "qqqq I can't kill a paper plane ship, nerf pls".
No, it states "certain groups who always want to avoid fights are abusing the system by using uncatchable entosis ships and since they aren't interested in maintaining sov or any space assets because they are not willing to fight, they just dabble in entosis stuff for trolling".
However, if we actually proceeded and went through what your... 'posts'... meant, we'd have to agree on calling social services and placing you under their stewardship depending on whatever jurisdiction you somehow managed to establish your presence under. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:21:41 -
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Tallardar wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Tallardar wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Obvious MoA shill forum alt detected, terrible spelling and lack of knowledge in English grammar made it obvious. 1/10 Have you looked at the Legion of xXDeathXx posts? They're just as bad. Hendrick, actually I did. But they have a valid excuse since most, if not virtually all of them, are ESL speakers by the virtue of being Russian native speakers. One wonders what MoA's excuse could be? :) I thought MOA were ESL?
Only one or two corps within MoA are truly ESL, the rest are led by native speakers. The only exception is that the fact that Gen Eve is a sucker for a certain Serbian war criminal, but he pointed out before that he lives overseas in a English native country for higher education.
Other than that, my good friend MASSADEATH has publicly stated before that English is his native language. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:23:52 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote: - And ofc better UI. But Punkturis is already on top of its game.
Agreed. Besides Punkturis, there are other team five-o team members that I personally believe in their excellence in their specialty tasks. I personally appreciate their work very much. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:31:00 -
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Tallardar wrote:Didn't Gen Eve have to change their name because they named their main after a war criminal who committed genocide?
That is indeed accurate. By his public personal claim, Gen Eve has pointed out before his character was originally named 'Gen Mladic', which refers to one General Ratko Mladi-ç (a.k.a. 'The Butcher of Bosnia') who's been accused of war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide by the International Court of Justice and currently is on trial for said accusations.
AFAIK you cannot name your EVE characters after people like Hitler, Idi Amin, Mladic etc.
(I suspect he might be the Internet personality who came up with 'Remove Kebab' without any intention to create a meme or a sense of irony) |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:28:27 -
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*MoA claims that the broken changes which allowed sov trolling without commitment and being able to avoid a fight is great for PvP *Then another MoA guy comes in and chimes about how being unable to run from a fight and getting required to commit in sov warfare is bad
10/10 comedy |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 16:31:57 -
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Spacial Girl wrote:Balthusdire Dominus wrote:The speed limitation while helpful doesn't solve the underlying problem of no risk to an attacker.
Good to see things moving forward. I think fozzie sov can be fun, just needs some more work. They'll still be unable to warp, and attackers can feast on their 4k/ms souls. Any reasonably fit ceptor/T3dessi should catch them.
Wrong, have you heard about grid mechanics? Have you even noticed that in the amount of time for the hostile to enter system and land on the sov structure grid, the trollceptor is either very close to breaking grid and disappearing or has already disappeared from the grid?
Yeah. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 16:40:05 -
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afkalt wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Spacial Girl wrote:Balthusdire Dominus wrote:The speed limitation while helpful doesn't solve the underlying problem of no risk to an attacker.
Good to see things moving forward. I think fozzie sov can be fun, just needs some more work. They'll still be unable to warp, and attackers can feast on their 4k/ms souls. Any reasonably fit ceptor/T3dessi should catch them. Wrong, have you heard about grid mechanics? Have you even noticed that in the amount of time for the hostile to enter system and land on the sov structure grid, the trollceptor is either very close to breaking grid and disappearing or has already disappeared from the grid? Yeah. It'll take about 90s +/- to break grid at 4k/s. It's catchable. But the mass penalty NEEDS to come back. Legitimately instant aligning intys will actually be even worse.
And it will, on average, take a hostile to land on that sov structure grid at least 30 seconds. With that lead, escape is almost certain unless the trollceptor wasn't watching local and failed stop orbiting and align away in a certain direction. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:20:26 -
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Captain StringfellowHawk wrote: Back when every MAJOR power bloc started rolling out their own versions of Brave Dojo because
I need to make a slight correction on history & the chronology about this tidbit: Certain major power blocs already had programs similar to Brave Dojo before Brave was established. Moreover, there were also other in-game non-aligned venues such as Rookie Help channel that functioned similarly. However, if Dojo was a place where applications and classes were frequent, maybe that would be a proper differentiator regarding history.
Just a thought. :P |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:36:23 -
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What is this verb 'anoy' you've used? What does it mean?
Jesus H. Christ, how come nobody in the entirety of Mordus Angels alliance is able to write or speak properly? It is just surreal. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:41:23 -
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Icycle wrote:if you cant figger that out by yourself
I don't know who or what a figger is, but I strongly suspect you wanted to spell figure properly, but you couldn't. |

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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:52:07 -
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Icycle wrote:Gella Delon wrote:Icycle wrote:Ask anyone in MOA. Everybody knows that I am for it. I actually like doing it but I wont spend the whole night at it. Not cos I am told to but mostly cos I concider wrong when you hold on to a system you dont live. Thats what drives me. That and that I dont like the CFC policies. I mean who does not like killing CFC? I know I do. Otherwise I would have joined another alliance You're not good enough to get in any other alliance, thats why you joined Mordus Angels. They take bad players and F1 monkeys like you as long as they drink the koolaid. These days you can get to almost any alliance. In the old days it was more strict. I dont know what koolaid is...I drink water or juice. Is there anything else you want to know about me?
I'd recommend drinking whatever it is that can aid in mental development, which would finally make it possible for MoA posters to spell words out correctly in anything they type.
How come you guys all manage to fail in spelling and grammar despite spellcheck virtually being built in with every modern web browser out there? |

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Posted - 2015.08.19 19:03:27 -
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Alright, it is our understanding that our beloved friends in Mordus Angels alliance had an issue fully comprehending Reagalan's previous post. As such, one of our spies in Mordus Angels came up with a proper translation of the post to usual MoA lingo.
Reagalan wrote: i'm sayenng this ass nicely ass pussiblele. fozziesov is e broken and fundamentally flawead system. naoh amount of tweakenng will evar makae it work ass well ass eithar of teh two previous sov systems. fozziesov is not engagenng for teh averagae fleet member, hwo has to wait around hwilele teh magical sov hackers do awl teh work. undar dominion sov, yoeur averagae fleet membar got to contributa vie dps, and at least got killmails at teh end. fozziesov is not fun for e sov defender, hwo has to racae to defend buffar zoneis from entitis hwo havae naoh intention of actually takenng yoeur space, or holdenng it, or even usenng it. it's not fun to chasae interceptors around. this has also been e problem ass far back ass sincae interceptors recievead bubblele ammunty hwich was also onae of teh worst design decisions in teh heistory of evae. fozziesov lacks pwermanencae. undar dominion sov, losenng e system was putentially, for awl intents and purposes, pwermanent. it could putentially fall into e timezonae from hwich you would Nefer buh ablele to takae it back. undar fozziesov, you can losae systems and takae them back latar. losenng yoeur spacae therefoare has far less valuae. theare is less on teh linae. sincae losenng spacae has less value, fewar pweoplele givae e **** about their spacae. this is readily apparent in teh mass exodus from nullsec. fozziesov discourageis fightenng becausae it doeis not forcae an entity to control e grid in ordar to win an objectivae. ironically, this was onae of teh statead goals of teh system. it discourageis fightenng becausae theare is naoh naeead to commit anythenng nomare to win an objectivae than e singlele sovhackar. any fleet that splits itself to covar multiplele nodes, and protect multiplele sovhackers, will fall prey to e fleet that maintains coherency, and rolls ass onae largae group winnenng multiplele small fights. it's therefoare in teh best interest of e defendar to not engage, to retain e "fleet-in-being" to discouragae an attackar from splittenng uep. by preventenng an attackar from splittenng uep, hue can therefoare maximizae teh tedium on part of teh attackers. dominion sov, at least, forcead both teh attackar and defendar to commit to e grid to fight ovar an objective, naoh mattar how adamant teh defendenng fc was at attemptenng to blueball teh attackers. theare was always e final timer, and teh defendar must show uep for it in force, or losae. fozziesov's focus on teh "small entities" detracts from teh ammensae amount of organization that has gonae into teh maintenancae of largae spacae empireis. teh idee that small, disorganizead entitis should havae an easiar timeam defendenng their space, or advantageis hwen attackenng someonae else's, is contrary to teh concept of "effort vs reward". this blind focus on teh "small entities" has also directly lead to far fewar largae fights in nullsec, and indeed, teh naeead for them. largae fights, largae wars, largae empires, and largae fleets, havae always been far greatar content producers than small gangs, or "small entities". largae fleets makae stragglers, targets for small gangs to catch, and reasons for industrialists to build things. largae wars involvae thousands of pelayers, given them reasons to log in, reasons to fight, and reasons for largae battleis involvenng mass destruction of ships to occeur. largae empireis drivae e metagameam that is not found in any othar gameam in teh world, and providae organizations and structureis hwich unita largae numbers of pelayers and providae e support naetwork for naew ones, and causeis and reasons for oldar oneis to log in. eve's metagameam has been teh numbar onae drivar of content for teh gameam. teh metagameam produceis hueadlines, teh metagameam produceis naew pelayers. fozziesov, and teh focus on "small entities", aims to systematically destroy awl of these, and, by extension, destroys e largae part of hwy wae pelay evae at awl. despita teh focus on "small entities", fozziesov hueavily favors largae entitis witht largae numbers of pweoplele hwo aare capablele of providenng extre ships to fit sovlasers to, and to rat and keep uep adms. thae adms of fozziesov aim to restrict teh sizae of e spacae empiare on teh concept of "occupancy sov". in heindsight, "occupancy sov" was e misguidead and flawead concept. teh sizae of e spacae empiare should not buh limitead to teh amount of spacae it can utilize, but by teh military pressuare exertead by teh othar pelayers and their spacae empireis. entosis links, teh cornerstonae of fozziesov, aare e major contributor to teh flaws of fozziesov, and aare also e fundamentally flawead concept that should Nefer havae been amplementead. thae idee of e "magical spacae laser" that determineis hwosae flag is pelantead in spacae is, even on it's face, e laughablele concept. wae dumpead millions of skillpoints into combat skills for e reason. citadels, hwich so-far louk likae e goud re-work of pus/stations, aare greatly hamstrung in their putential becausae of their reliancae on entosis link mechanics. thae issuae of "trollceptors" is e direct result of entosis links. teh ehp grind of dominion sov, and of pus, was an inherent inhibitor of "troll" tactics. heighar dps ships inherently cost nomare nomney. ehp grinds were, by design, inherently conducivae to risk-reward concepts. to effect e changae in sov, you naeedead to commit. this commitment was e major drivar of conflict. hwen e sov war occured, it was e big deal. ehp grinds may not has been that much fun, but that wasn't teh puint. evae was Nefer e "fun" gameam. evae inherently is incapablele of beenng e "fun" gameam. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.19 19:11:15 -
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Icycle wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Icycle wrote:To me its nothing to do with Gevlon. Cool. You're still his *****, at least he certainly seems to think so(as do your leadership, who is more than happy to do his bidding), which puts the lie to your anti authority rant a while ago. Nope. You are wrong. The other day there was an entosis fleet and I joined, then there was a second one. Instead I joined other guys to do pvp. I pick and chose to what I am in the mood for.
So you mean, you had the ability to choose between a sovtrolling fleet and an AFK ratter ganking fleet, and you chose the latter? Well done, we're all very proud of you. And thanks for basically backing up the point we've been raising.
I love MoA. |

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Posted - 2015.08.20 10:33:05 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Orca Platypus wrote: You know that chasing "nano junk" away is surprisingly easy when you actually live in the system?
How would you know? You're in an NPC corp. Let me guess, here comes the "my main is in nullsec" trope.
MoA NPC corp alt. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.20 10:36:06 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:Tallardar wrote:Orca Platypus wrote: Gewns and UAxDEATH try being dominionfags and fail pathetically. Working as intended. I like how you had to tack on a bit of homophobia in your descriptor to express how upset you are that active players are sharing their opinions on their mains. CCP and the ISD should probably remove this bit of of aspersion that calls a person a homophobic slur. Recent examples show that people who look for homophobia will find it even in theater shows for kids with no sexual context whatsoever. But it is lovely that instead of the meaningful part you want to remove it for some non-existent homophobia. It shows I'm right.
Not even a sub-atomic particle of reality comes close to proving you are right on anything you have argued under this thread, and you repeatedly saying that you are right will not change that. :)
But hey, please do keep up with your plan, maybe it will work on the 493125th try. |

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Posted - 2015.08.20 10:38:21 -
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Tallardar wrote:Orca Platypus wrote:Tallardar wrote:Orca Platypus wrote: Gewns and UAxDEATH try being dominionfags and fail pathetically. Working as intended. I like how you had to tack on a bit of homophobia in your descriptor to express how upset you are that active players are sharing their opinions on their mains. CCP and the ISD should probably remove this bit of of aspersion that calls a person a homophobic slur. Recent examples show that people who look for homophobia will find it even in theater shows for kids with no sexual context whatsoever. But it is lovely that instead of the meaningful part you want to remove it for some non-existent homophobia. It shows I'm right. Actually, "fags", which you added at the end of "dominion", isn't "finding homophobia where it doesn't exist" since it's quite literally used as a pejorative towards homosexuals. I'm sorry you can't comprehend that and are assuming me pointing out that it breaks the forum posting rules is somehow trying to censor your inane "Grr Goon" posts rife with grammatical errors.
Quelle surprise: Homophobia is ripe within his organization, which is led by a genius who's a war criminal/genocide committer fanboy. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.20 10:42:06 -
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Icycle wrote:Speedkermit Damo wrote: I'm getting plenty of fights in my alliance thanks. And I'm not the one complaining about a lack of content or fights. I was referring to the posters who are complaining about having no-one to shoot while surrounded by blues.
Agree. Reset standing of your neighbour or at least deploy to an enemy space and put up a POS. But if you dont do anything, well dont be suprised nothing happens....The fault is with your alliance that decided to blue all your area and not CCP! Take an example from us. We got very few allies and a very rich target environment 50000 to kill  . I have never been so happy!
I don't see anyone proposing "Mordus Angels members need to develop further brain cells" as a solution against the deficiencies of Fozzie Sov, therefore, you will not find many people that take your ridiculous suggestions such as "unblue your allies" or "undock your alts and shoot them with your main" and such seriously. |

Alp Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.20 10:46:54 -
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B0RG 0VERLORD wrote:nuetral..
Hello MoA NPC alt #8.
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